How to Make Progress...

[greyestfox]

In the past few weeks I have done much more with my time, have done more for myself and for others. Happy to say one more thing, in the past few weeks I stopped doing things with my ls being UtsuWii. What? Yep, this ls is amongst the worst social options as it's impossible to get stuff done in it... proof:
-CoP: after having to leave a static due to neglecting of MST, I had people interested and when a promie went wrong I got the notion tossed in my face multiple times.
-NMs: Alright, everyone knows how likely it is you'll get help with that when you ask for it (unless you've got feminine appeal)
-Quests: It takes 1 week to setup and 1 hour to blow off.
-Progress: I have the least to show as being benefitted from this ls.

So is this because I'm pissy or bitter or upset? Nope, just don't want people continuing on the same error in judgement I did. And if you continue you might as well quit and get on AIM as that'll give you same results with 13 dollars less a month. Seriously, it's all mindless chatter that proves worthless.

It's highly unlikely that I won't be called a whiny bitch and that this post will go unedited but really no ls has made me want to quit more then this ls has.

Among the better people: ty Lav, Sil, Trey, Blood, and Moz and hope that you bare no harsh feelings to what may seem like a malicious conclusion.

-out

[Narsat]

That proves everyone has a different point of view, this LS makes me want to stay, the only thing keeping me on the game, my Dynamis LS isn't that much of a reason, because I've proved over and over no one cares about making it work, except a few.

If you feel I'm an asshole, and you have lost all respect for me because I decide to help Samm get an AJ (when I had told you I'd help you on my break, which was next monday), then you don't deserve to be helped, you need to think on others before yourself.

If for helping someone else that's not you I'm an asshole, then I guess I am, a big one. And that's too bad, this asshole isn't helping with your Ose anymore. Find someone else to do that for you. You bitch at me even after I helped you do Promy-Holla, which you know I hate, alot. ALOT.

But hey, I guess that was nothing, all I had to do was tell Tien that we weren't exping (after I had told her we would) to help you, I finished the homework and tests I had pending to get in and help you, when I had told you on message I wouldn't be able to. But that's not enough, is it?
You wanted me to join the cop static, to help on w/e you need, on w/e you want, whenever you want? Sorry, that's just not possible, you're not the only friend I got on the game.


I'm not angry, I'm dissapointed. But I guess they were right, you only think about yourself.
With that attitude you won't go far in neither the game nor life.
Friendly advice: Learn to know when, and how to screw yourself so someone else can get something. That'll pay off in a good friendship, and they'll help you back when you ask.


I do know not everyone is like me, and thank god they're not, friggin' boring world if they were. But being an asshole all around because you don't get what you want isn't right.

It's a game, all you see are virtual characters representing a REAL PERSON on the other side of the screen. They're not tools for you to clear your goals.
You can play FFXI and FFXII, they're the same, what's the difference? FFXI is full of people that will fuck up and fail in w/e you need.
FFXII has all the NPCs set to do what they HAVE to do, they're not gonna screw up, they're gonna tell you exactly what you wanna hear, well, that doesn't happen on FFXI.

[samm]

You know, there is a reason why this shell is called a social, not a Limbus/CoP shell. It's so that we can talk and rant and whatever when everything is going wrong, or when something's going very right. This shell (I agree with Narsat) is one of the better things on FFXI, I quit all of my other servers because it's just not the same without UtsusemiWii. It's kept me sane wheather RL or FF troubles kept me down. Like I have said before I heard it somewhere and it's true the Linkshell ends up being like your brothers and sisters on FF and I'm sorry if you don't feel like we should be part of your FF life.

You can't tell me you haven't done NMs. To be honest I think you've been to Ose the same amount if not more times that me.

And if you really want to talk about NMs, how about the Bomb Queen that was scheduled in the Snakes shell, but someone did not want to help since Avengers' wasn't going to be free lot until the second one? Which is a level 69 MNK item unless I'm mistaken, and your MNK is like, level 20 tops.

This shell when it was made was inteded for us to hang out, have fun, do whatever quests you want to but grey, if you want a quest done with only this shell alone you have to let people know ahead of time. and you actually have to lead it if your gonna lead it. Once you called me at 10 at night when I was not at home and all but demanded I help you with the Dark lord. I didn't even know you were having that run!


Oh and should I even bring to mind that time you called me at 12 AM and I rolled out of bed to PL you (even thoguh you didn't need it -.-)? Just so you'd have a level? Really, would you do that for me? Honestly ask yourself that question.

We do get stuff done Grey, I did a Promivion-Holla almost exclusively in the shell, and don't you even go with that (feminine appeal) crud on me boy. We were planning on helping you with the same NM that we were camping, then you flipped out on us. It's not like you don't receive help too.

[treillerti]

Narsat's right, you are an ass.
And I'm a high-quality bitch when I want to be. . Like now. . I sit here and laugh at you for thinking that a shell that does not belong to you, will get you everything you want, everything you need.
WRONG.

/point
/laugh
/laugh
/laugh

You're ammusing, and I am too. ^^ If you don't plan to earn anything, and just complain about when things go wrong, then may I suggest an offline RPG ? Where they may not care what you think, but given enough play the story will work in your favor ? I hear Oblivion's a good game. . Sell your account, get some money for a 360 and Oblivioun, you can get all the items you want. !

And what's more pathetic is, you dropped a, not god shell, not HNM shell. . Hell not even a 'let's help everyone' shell. . But a SOCIAL shell. Social being a term people use to talk with one another. . Or whine, in your case. Get it through your thick skull, give before you get anything, cuz a lot of people on the shell think you're a dick who has a dhalmel stuck up his ass.

[greyestfox]

treillerti, you're really amusing in the classic green manner that allows most people to neglect many faults but it's not my position to judge you as I have no idea who you are. Nar it had very little to do with AJ, but rather it is the fact that I had quit the ls prior upon realizing what little it did to help others than a select few. Whether to state this opinion openly was something I had to consider over weeks and over the past time it became more and more clear.

Samm, (feminine appeal) had nothing to do with isolating you so don't flatter yourself.

As for real people: You are right but these real people have other obligations and have no reason why their time and effort should be in vein. THAT is the point of what the statement was about. This was a warning to everyone new and old as to what I've wanted to say and couldn't... to what I tried to argue against Tensu at while defending Samm seeing her as my friend only to get everything tossed back in my face! If you're gonna log on don't waste your fuckin time that is the only purpose of this warning and you Nar yourself said that it made your life better. I admit there are times when I'll be selfish but there is also a sense of satisfaction in helping people at the cost of your own time yet there is a limit to how much you can put into helping other and the time here has passed the limit. Inside I know that I'm not the only who sees logic in my reasoning but since I'm leaving there is no point for anyone to support this view.

Not so much of this involves you Nar, this has been an overall view and not centered around my own issues and you can open your mind to where it can be drawn from or you can shun me as I have this ls... no real matter. Regretting is pointless, only thing to do is make resolutions.

[samm]

Oh, so I'm not the only female in this LS? Sorry, but you said that specifically, I'm not trying to flatter myself, (I prefer to just be "one of the guys" with you all anyway) but how the heck else am I supposed to take it, when you tell me specifically to read this thing and "if I have any decency" or w/e to not modify it? Seriously I don't modify random posts. If you tell me all that, what the heck else am I supposed to think? If we had 5+ females on this LS regularily, and you told everyone on the LS to read this, then I could maybe understand, but telling me IN TELL that I should read this, then what am I supposed to assume? Did I even SAY me specifically? Does it even matter? You can't play the female card without giving me a bit of slack.

Don't tell me it wasn't a set back on me and (my sleep or lack thereof) to help you, my time and effort to show you what I believed friendship was about, obviously meant nothing to you.
^ This statement applies to others as well.

And if you explode the second you see us camping Ose, and then we see this, what else are we supposed to think?

I literally logged on about a minute before you sent me a /tell, asking if we were hunting Ose, then commenced exploding.

[Lavitz]

...ok, I got 3 hours of sleep, this is too troublesome to deal with now, expect me to be back later with comments

first short post in the thread ftw

[Lostwarrior]

I have to agree with the "This LS is the olny thing i stay for" Cause that is the olny reason im still playing and paying 14 bucks a month. I'v though of everyoen in here as a best friend. And i have though about selling my account a lot latly but i havevt cause i think about all the great times we have had. And i want to keep haveing good times with you guys.

So please just stop fucking fighting its really fucking annoying. Cause im proboly gonna quit soon. (I need to buy a car^^). But i want to go out having fun.

[samm]

FFXI > Car

Besides, we'd miss you D:!

[Lostwarrior]

idk i really need a car soon....and i was acually gonna play today but there is maintance.

[samm]

I think Lav is somewhere between sleeping and awake. I keep seeing him online. >_>

[dainius]

Well....erm...seems I've been missing alot while I've been gone.^^

Anyway, why complain? We only play a game together! We've always has some rough times as a LS, but we always got through as a LS. I understand if you want to get something done, but you could always just get another LS just for activites. I mean, I have both a ZM and Dynamis Ls, but I always come back to Utsusemi: Wii just to talk. It just doesn't feel right to talk in another LS when I could just go to the one I know and love. You people are my friends, and I know it. I've known some of you for 3 years already.

Grey, don't get mad because you can't finish something. Hell, I haven't even finished anything yet in FFXI. Let alone have a 75 character. We all play the game differently, and I enjoy playing my own way.

Wish I could have known you longer Grey, but it was nice to meet you! Hopefully everything else works out for you^^

[Lavitz]

samm said:

I think Lav is somewhere between sleeping and awake. I keep seeing him online. >_>

yeah, and now I'm getting pissed off because I was kept up all night by my roommate and his gf and I just brought up how I had a lack of sleep and I get called an ass, so I'm still not in the mood to comment on this development. besides, looks like the thread has died down a bit

[treillerti]

Of course, he started a fight, and lost a war. XD Fun times. . fun times.

[greyestfox]

Fight? War? You can't be serious Tien because if you really look at this as a fight then you must truly have some grand delusions. All that happened was me reaching a conclusion that, although may not look too appealling to some, is one that won't change anytime soon.